WHH -vs- TCC in FlashForward

[boutte]

They concluded she was dead because her DNA was found in the remains of the destroyed vehicle. When the guy goes back to look for her it shows her body laying on the ground with a severed leg. That leg is where the the DNA came from. The guys who blew up the Hummer must have saved her and then released her after she healed, possibly after being recruited into their group.

The suicidal FBI agent proves that the occurrences in the flash forwards can change.

[notsolost42]

Originally Posted by boutte

They concluded she was dead because her DNA was found in the remains of the destroyed vehicle. When the guy goes back to look for her it shows her body laying on the ground with a severed leg. That leg is where the the DNA came from. The guys who blew up the Hummer must have saved her and then released her after she healed, possibly after being recruited into their group.

The suicidal FBI agent proves that the occurrences in the flash forwards can change.

Exactly! TCC = Things Can Change. His death was a variable.

[boutte]

And were the guys who RPGed the Hummer. I think they're going to play an important role in the story eventually.

[wiley]

Originally Posted by Dead but Here

I keep thinking the asian guy who thinks he didn't see anything because he's dead, even though the gf saw them getting married is going to keep trying to find a way to get himself killed. Not sure if it will work or not. I think he didn't see anything because he was standing on the beach at the beginning of his wedding with his eyes closed.

The Asian guy (Demetri) didn't have a flashforward because he didn't blackout.
He may have been dazed for a moment after the car crash but he was up and around long before Mark or anybody else woke up, just like the guy at the stadium.
I think He and some others who did not experience a flashforward may be immune or something to the effects that caused everyone else to flash.
Maybe even targeted as part of the experiment.

[losttime]

Originally Posted by boutte

They concluded she was dead because her DNA was found in the remains of the destroyed vehicle. When the guy goes back to look for her it shows her body laying on the ground with a severed leg. That leg is where the the DNA came from. The guys who blew up the Hummer must have saved her and then released her after she healed, possibly after being recruited into their group.

The suicidal FBI agent proves that the occurrences in the flash forwards can change.

If it was as simple as the agent dying and proving that TCC that easy than I would say this show is pretty much finished.

This show is about FF. Giving an explanation so soon would be pretty much summizing the show.

The FF's people experienced are changeable if they want them to be by not being where they saw themselves or killing themselves, as that agent apparently did.

I think its interesting that when Dimitris fiance/gf whatever says she sees them getting married but it never actually shows her looking at him where we see him in the vision itself.. its always her in the vision.

Could it be that she just thinks she is marrying Dimitri but its not really him? Or maybe she isnt getting married at all.

What does she do for a living again, I dont recall?

[Adzjwarner]

Originally Posted by losttime

Could it be that she just thinks she is marrying Dimitri but its not really him? Or maybe she isnt getting married at all.

What does she do for a living again, I dont recall?

Maybe as he got killed the month before their wedding, it was only fitting to hold his funeral on the beach on the day they were going to get married?

Also, she's a Lawyer

[chester]

Originally Posted by losttime

If it was as simple as the agent dying and proving that TCC that easy than I would say this show is pretty much finished.

This show is about FF. Giving an explanation so soon would be pretty much summizing the show.

The FF's people experienced are changeable if they want them to be by not being where they saw themselves or killing themselves, as that agent apparently did.

I think its interesting that when Dimitris fiance/gf whatever says she sees them getting married but it never actually shows her looking at him where we see him in the vision itself.. its always her in the vision.

Could it be that she just thinks she is marrying Dimitri but its not really him? Or maybe she isnt getting married at all.

What does she do for a living again, I dont recall?

I disagree. I don't why they kept up with the 'can't avoid the FF' thing for so long. It just made it boring to think we were just going to watch it all unfold predictably. *yawn* Makes me sleepy just thinking about it.

But, hooray!! Now it just go interesting...

[losttime]

Originally Posted by chester

I disagree. I don't why they kept up with the 'can't avoid the FF' thing for so long. It just made it boring to think we were just going to watch it all unfold predictably. *yawn* Makes me sleepy just thinking about it.

But, hooray!! Now it just go interesting...

Well look at Lost. It has not been proven as a fact on the show that TCC or WHH.

That hasbt been answered yet and its been 5 complete seasons. The fact that they have already made the implication that "Yeah you can change your future that you saw" pretty much is given us an answer.

Also if it is true that they are able to change their future really has no bearing on what is going on with Lost.

Maybe theiir will be a sort of "course correction" and the kids end up being killed anyway and it was related to his suicide for some unknown reason as of yet.

Its a long shot but its just a guess.

I still think that if they toyed with the concept of WHH vs TCC would be more of a purpose of watcing it than thinking ok they can change it by "just killing themself or if they are supposed to be in NY on April 29 just be in Ca or somewhere else instead."

[JfromtheD]

When Raynaud showed up, put the gun at his head, and Mark tackled him...
the gun actually went off.

I wasn't expecting that...

Was it his time, or did Mark stop his death?

[3d-aholic]

Originally Posted by JfromtheD

Was it his time, or did Mark stop his death?

Yeh, that was a tease....we don't know.

The issue though is its about probability...and its doubtful that one death of that one police office is going to have much effect on anything. 99.999999% of everything is still going to happen as always. And this is the subtle difference between WHH and TCC. Eventhough TCC...its really only changing for that police office, and the person he was going to kill...everything else is WHH still. This to me is a lesson transferable to Lost....and its how I see Lost's time travel.