I think the thing that points to no alternate realities the most is that the TPTB pointed out to us that they put the Adam and Eve corpses in the cave to prove they had a plan from the beginning. Those two bodies have to be someone we know already so no alternate universe for them.
BTW I don't think they are Rose and Bernard, that's too easy.
I think the female is Kate and the Male is either Jack or Sawyer.
Think its Jacob and Nemesis and Jack was just wrong about one being a female
Not for nothing but all you brilliant people aught to learn to listen to what you are hearing. Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof said "Alternate Future" not alternate universes, worlds or realities. There is a big difference between the two. Not only that but they were talking about alternate futures being the result of time travel.
Alternate future
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In science fiction stories involving time travel, an alternate future or alternative future is a possible future which never comes to pass, typically because someone travels back into the past and alters it so that the events of the alternate future cannot occur.
An alternate future differs from alternate history in that alternate history usually speculates on what might have happened in the past if some events in the past had occurred differently, while an alternative future usually speculates on what might happen in the future. Also, alternative histories commonly forgo time travel, while alternate futures do not.
An alternate future should not be confused with a possible future. Many science fiction stories are set in the future and treat it as if it were the only future within the context of the story; an alternate future story is specifically set in an alternate one, that is, one that, within the context of the story, does not come about to pass.
Examples of fictional works which show alternate futures include:
Back to the Future Part II
Mirror Universe (Star Trek)
"A Sound of Thunder"
Samurai Jack
In Marvel Comics:
Days of Future Past
Cable's future timeline dominated by Apocalypse and Stryfe
The Transformers: The Movie ends up as an alternate future in the Marvel comics continuity
Danny Phantom
Heroes
Timeslip
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Yes, they spoke the truth but it was regarding alternate futures with respect to time travel. That was the subject of the discussion. They did not say one word abot alternate universes, realities or worlds.
"Parallel universe or alternative reality is a self-contained separate reality coexisting with one's own. A specific group of parallel universes is called a multiverse, although this term can also be used to describe the possible parallel universes that constitute physical reality. While the terms "parallel universe" and "alternative reality" are generally synonymous and can be used interchangeably in most cases, there is sometimes an additional connotation implied with the term "alternative reality" that implies that the reality is a variant of our own. The term "parallel universe" is more general, without any connotations implying a relationship (or lack thereof) with our own universe. A universe where the very laws of nature are different (for example, it has no relativistic limitations and the speed of light can be exceeded) would in general count as a parallel universe but not an alternative reality."
Some people are just going to drown in their own stupidity one day.
Please explain how, if the incident does not happen and Oceanic Flight 815 does not crash, how is this not an alternate future? And how does this alternate future not exist in an alternate or parallel universe?
Furthermore, do you really mean to tell me that the writers of Lost are going to come back in season 6 and say 'Hey, I didn't say alternate UNIVERSE!'? I'm thinking they will never acknowledge this statement or if they do they'll have to own up and admit they either misspoke or intentionally misled people.
Please explain how, if the incident does not happen and Oceanic Flight 815 does not crash, how is this not an alternate future? And how does this alternate future not exist in an alternate or parallel universe?
Furthermore, do you really mean to tell me that the writers of Lost are going to come back in season 6 and say 'Hey, I didn't say alternate UNIVERSE!'? I'm thinking they will never acknowledge this statement or if they do they'll have to own up and admit they either misspoke or intentionally misled people.
It creates an alternate reality by spliting spacetime. A new branch on the tree. Not the same branch with a different conclusion. I don't want to go too deep into this because of spoilerish stuff. We can continue this in the spoiler thread 815 if you like.
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It creates an alternate reality by spliting spacetime. A new branch on the tree. Not the same branch with a different conclusion. I don't want to go too deep into this because of spoilerish stuff. We can continue this in the spoiler thread 815 if you like.
It would be better if you could speak in the context of seasons 1 through 5 since that is what everyone else has to go on and is also supposedly what you yourself used to formulate these theories.
Besides that, spoilers are unreliable and if the only way for this to make sense is because of some information that will not be revealed until season 6 then it proves that you were just hedging your bets on an outcome that made no sense in the show that we were watching for 5 seasons.
What you just said does not make any distinction between the two terms to me. Like I said, if we see a different "branch" that forks off in a different direction because the incident didn't happen or Oceanic flight 815 didn't crash, then the past was changed and an alternate scenario is being played out, which is what Cuse was saying wouldn't happen.
You guys talk about whether those in 1977 succeeded in changing anything. I wonder if, instead of seeing what would have happened if they did change things(alternate future), we will be shown what would happen if it was all a little bit different to begin with(alternate universe). In both universes, nothing is changed due to time travel; they play out exactly how they're supposed to. It's just that in one, 815 doesn't crash.
Please explain how, if the incident does not happen and Oceanic Flight 815 does not crash, how is this not an alternate future? And how does this alternate future not exist in an alternate or parallel universe?
Furthermore, do you really mean to tell me that the writers of Lost are going to come back in season 6 and say 'Hey, I didn't say alternate UNIVERSE!'? I'm thinking they will never acknowledge this statement or if they do they'll have to own up and admit they either misspoke or intentionally misled people.
TP, allow me to explain since notso is being difficult these days.
First, let's assume Jack is successful and changes the future and Flight 815 doesn't crash on the island. An alternate future would say that Flight 815 lands in L.A., and no one ever knows about the island or remembers anything about it. Basically, seasons 1-5 never ever happened, everything changed.
An alternate universe would theoretically make two realities. In one universe, Flight 815 never crashes, lands in L.A., and no one knows about the island. In the other universe, Flight 815 still crashed on the island, and Sun, Ben, and Frank are still hanging out on the beach with Jacob and Nemesis.
In my opinion, the difference between these two is slim. Both have alternate futures where things are changed, but alternate universes "technically" are not the same as they take it one step further. Either way, I'm with you. These semantics are BS.
TP, allow me to explain since notso is being difficult these days.
First, let's assume Jack is successful and changes the future and Flight 815 doesn't crash on the island. An alternate future would say that Flight 815 lands in L.A., and no one ever knows about the island or remembers anything about it. Basically, seasons 1-5 never ever happened, everything changed.
An alternate universe would theoretically make two realities. In one universe, Flight 815 never crashes, lands in L.A., and no one knows about the island. In the other universe, Flight 815 still crashed on the island, and Sun, Ben, and Frank are still hanging out on the beach with Jacob and Nemesis.
In my opinion, the difference between these two is slim. Both have alternate futures where things are changed, but alternate universes "technically" are not the same as they take it one step further. Either way, I'm with you. These semantics are BS.
I am still trying to figure out how this alternate world is going to get back to the Island and how confused they are when Ben and Sun start talking to them as they already know them.
I guess the alternate world people are just going to have to accept their other existence on the Island that have all died off but resumed in a new world.
It also shows that the decisions in the past such as detonating the bomb, comes with no responsibility.
So they die in the one world but allowed to continue on regardless of what their other world life decisions were.
I guess we can add another world created when Desmond turned the fail-safe key. We just havent seen that world in action yet.
Or have we?
By the end of this show we will all have nose bleeds. LOL
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TP, allow me to explain since notso is being difficult these days.
First, let's assume Jack is successful and changes the future and Flight 815 doesn't crash on the island. An alternate future would say that Flight 815 lands in L.A., and no one ever knows about the island or remembers anything about it. Basically, seasons 1-5 never ever happened, everything changed.
An alternate universe would theoretically make two realities. In one universe, Flight 815 never crashes, lands in L.A., and no one knows about the island. In the other universe, Flight 815 still crashed on the island, and Sun, Ben, and Frank are still hanging out on the beach with Jacob and Nemesis.
In my opinion, the difference between these two is slim. Both have alternate futures where things are changed, but alternate universes "technically" are not the same as they take it one step further. Either way, I'm with you. These semantics are BS.
I guess alternate universes are like "what if" scenarios? They may not have necessarily even happened, they are just telling us how it might be? Kind of like dream sequences?
If anyone has ever watched the old TV show Newsradio, they did a couple of episodes where they did what if scenarios. What if Newsradio took place in outer space and in the future? What if Newsradio was a sinking ship?
But it depends on what causes this alternate scenario. If it's because they prevented the incident, then I think that is an alternate future.
I am still trying to figure out how this alternate world is going to get back to the Island and how confused they are when Ben and Sun start talking to them as they already know them.
I guess the alternate world people are just going to have to accept their other existence on the Island that have all died off but resumed in a new world.
It also shows that the decisions in the past such as detonating the bomb, comes with no responsibility.
So they die in the one world but allowed to continue on regardless of what their other world life decisions were.
I guess we can add another world created when Desmond turned the fail-safe key. We just havent seen that world in action yet.
Or have we?
By the end of this show we will all have nose bleeds. LOL
The way I see it, in an alternate universe, pretty much there are two versions of every character. In one universe, there is the Sun who crashed on 815, escaped the island, crashed on 316, etc. In the other universe, there is the Sun who flew on 815, landed in LA and went about her business. I don't think they would ever cross paths or merge together.
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